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New Post 4/12/2008 9:47 PM
User is offline Tony The Tiger
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Need hot site help 

Hello,

My problem is that I have successfully setup my web site and now I need help in making this site hot. Please visit at http://www.viproinc.com I need skinning that is not busy and cluttered. I want the viewer to see the real content for a professional corporate site. If I have posted to the wrong place or there is a better place to get this kind of help please direct me to the proper place. Thanks, Tony
 
New Post 4/12/2008 9:57 PM
User is offline Nina Meiers
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Re: Need hot site help 

You could start with a free skin - from http://www.dnnskins.com - or perhaps you might like to buy one from http://www.snowcovered.com - that would get you started and a semi professional look quickly - then you could establish how much you want to spend to get it looking really really good. 

Just a suggestion -

We use Dreamweaver - but because we do commerical skins for clients and sometimes have to fix theirs, we have to actually package the skin up and use the uploaded each time -it is tedious - but it also does make sure we have the correct formating and when you upload a skin you can just zip up the file you changed, not the whole skin package - often we'll be just uploading a zipped skin file, or css file if needed.

The quickest way I work on skins is creating a site for development locally - and we create a site using dreamweaver, then we save it on the network, and refresh the page.  Then if it's right, just use ftp and ftp directly to folder and click refresh.

I can't imagine being able to skin professionally using VS2005 - and I certainly don't recommend people install the source code version if just skinning -  it's an overkill.

You could use The Webdveloper extension in FF is also a good tool to use, and you'll find in the development of your work there is an initial stage of the getting the pane layout right, then most of the changes are css changes which can be done with a css editor like topstyle.

I tried using VS because that was the 'buzz word' but man oh man - it's not the right tool for 'designers' or professional skinners - they need the familiar tools of Dreamweaver and I suppose you could even useGoLive - I know a few people have, and even some who have used photoshop, image ready, sliced it and then dropped the tokens in with dreamweaver.  you can configure photoshop to use CSS for saving - but I have no idea how that works, I just read about it.

You'll see those skins that are sold on snowcovered that have 'image ready slices' code in there - that's how they created that skin fo sale.

Nina Meiers
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New Post 4/13/2008 1:23 PM
User is offline keeperofstars
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I agree with Nina that for general skinning VS is not the "best tool" well to some degree. :)

I find using Microsoft expression is a really awesome tool to use for skin development. Mainly cause well its cheap 100 Bucks for the upgrade option which is goes for any websoftware counts. Meaning if you have dreamweaver you can get the "upgrade licenses" for Microsoft expression web. Or frontpaget etc. Anyways. The thing I love about expression is the way it handles CSS you can drag and drop CSS from one file to another. This helps cause you can build your whole site with the CSS applied locally, and just drag and drop it to a general CSS later on. Helpful for when you have multiple people working on servera different skin layouts, IE a 3-pane, 5-pane version, etc they can develope locally and then all combine into the main CSS for the skin. You can also attach any exsisting CSS file and drag and drop to and from its very nice and smooth. Since its based off visual studio you can get a rough feel for your skin via preview which loads a local port based webpage to view. Granted the tokens won't render but you can get a good visual feel for the skin. You can also have it preview in any acceptable resolution for your computer and with any browser installed. Its really nice to work with. Overall I prefer it much more compared to Dreamweaver.

Now I personally love using visual studio for all my skin development but that is because I don't need the design layout for my skins, and it has much better support for writing aspx based skins. Note I write most of my stuff in html / xml / css style cause I offer it for free / cheap. I however make small edits to attributes etc via the aspx instead of uploading the whole skin. Over and over, once I have my final package I roll it out with both options. Html / aspx

I guess my point is everyone has their own choice of software, and each piece does it a little differently, but none is better or worse then the next, just pick one you like to use and go from there. I do however suggest going with expression web or dreamweaver for skin develop if you are new to it. Cause you will want the visual presentation they provide.

As nina said though the big piece of making DNN skin is knowning how to code html / css properly. After you know how to code html / css then you can start to research some of the finer points of how DNN work, like what order of CSS files it cascades with, what CSS sytles to overwrite to get the desired effects etc.

The good news is its pretty simple to learn, and you quickly will build a skin library to go off from, making it fast and easy to build more / different skins with much less work.

 

 
New Post 4/17/2008 1:50 PM
User is offline Tony The Tiger
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Re: Need hot site help 

Hello Nina,

Thanks for all the input. I looked at the free skins at the sites you recommended as well as several other. I did not find anything I like. I do not have time to learn how to make skins so I need someone to help me. Do you offer this kind of service? Do you have a web site I can look at?

Tony Knowler

 
New Post 4/17/2008 1:54 PM
User is offline Tony The Tiger
20 posts
10th Ranked


Re: Need hot site help 

Hello Kepperofstars,

Thanks for all the input. As I told Nina I looked at many free skins and did not find anything I like. Do you offer this kind of DNN skin service?

Tony Knowler

 

 
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