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New Post 7/14/2007 3:44 PM
User is offline DavidWSnow
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Secure Login - Mixed Blessing 

I would like a secure login, but I don't want my customers to see the IE "This page contains both secure and non-secure..." dialog box. That scares them more that a non-secure login does.  When I tries setting up DNN with secure login via s 3rd party product a while ago I had to make sure that all of the images came from a https url.

Now I see that the DotNetNuke sites suffers from the same dialog when I come here. I hope you will have ways to make that work when DNN 4.5.4 ships

 

 


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New Post 7/14/2007 11:38 PM
User is offline Mitch Sellers
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Re: Secure Login - Mixed Blessing 

I would hope that using relative paths on all images we could have the secure communication without the warning message.

I will have to look into what is causing the message as I too will want to get this implemented on my site but I can't have the mixed content message...


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New Post 7/15/2007 9:21 PM
User is offline Scott Willhite
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Re: Secure Login - Mixed Blessing 

This really does not have anything to do with the way that SSL is implemented in DNN... it's simply a function of site content and configuration.  In our case, we serve the sourceforge.net image on nearly every page in our site (via the skin)... except for the Login page and the User Profile (also Registration) page.  It was removed from these two SSL pages specifically to avoid a warning on the secure page itself, which is particularly confusing.  However, upon login you are redirecting to a page which is then displaying an "insecure" image (the sourceforge.net image served from another domain).

In this particular instance (for us) serving that image locally is not an option as this is the primary means by which our rank is determined with SourceForge.  The only options would be to configure a specific post-login landing page (which can be frustrating when you're trying to navigate directly into secure content) or to give up serving the sourceforge indicator.

If you'd like to try a little test here to verify this:

1) Log out.
2) Click the Register button.
3) While on the register page (which is SSL enabled), click on the Login page.
4) When login is completed you're redirected back to an SSL enabled page (but more importantly, one not serving the sf.net image)

Cheers


Scott Willhite
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New Post 7/15/2007 10:08 PM
User is offline John Mitchell
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Re: Secure Login - Mixed Blessing 

Actually the SSL Mixed Mode warning is coming from the Bi4ce Ad (http://dnn.bi4ce.com/468x60_v3.swf).

It only happens occasionally, and on several logins I was able to get redircted after login to a page that has the SF logo without a warning.

As Scott said though, it is a specific site content issue and one that can not be slayed with a silver bullet.
When using SSL you will need to be careful about external links and either make them SSL all the time (not good) or remove them.

Usually, when you switch to SSL you should do it only for a specific task like login, registration, shopping cart checkout, or some other place where the user will be posting sensitive information back to the server.
In these cases it doesn't really make sense to have the extra distraction from things like ads.

 

 


 
New Post 7/16/2007 8:42 AM
User is offline Scott Willhite
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Re: Secure Login - Mixed Blessing 

Since the sourceforge logo is just about the very last thing on the page, an ad earlier on the page (if served from another domain) will trigger it first.  However the sourceforge logo will also cause that to happen as well (for most users), there is no difference between it and an off domain ad file.   There is also some variation in behavior depending upon your specific browser and version as well your personal (local) security settings.

I'm unsure if there is a particular reason why we're not serving all of those ads locally (most are).

To reaffirm the answer to the original question, DNN is properly handling SSL.  But you must determine what the appropriate security configuration is for your site depending upon your needs.


Scott Willhite
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