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Crispy wrote
FTB's build in smiley buttons? I know nothing of this, not saying
it doesn't exist but this also poses another problem: What if the user
isn't using FTB? |
I thought it did since Community Server uses FTB and it has a Smiley
drop-down, although I'm not sure if it's a custom toolbar item or not.
I actually use FCKEditor for my DNN site and FCK has a smiley button
which works great.
Crispy wrote
First off, the current gallery needs to change to be more
secure. This will require it using the DNN File Manager and no more
custom upload mechanism. |
Which frankly is another reason I think the Forum should provide it's
own image upload functionality. Users typically don't want to wrestle
with a gallery application to simply add an image to their posts. They
want a simple, idiot-proof dialog with a "Browse" and an "Upload"
button. This is what I ended up writing since my users complained
constantly about the whole image upload process. Fortunately FCKeditor
allows you to specify a custom image gallery script so substituting the
gallery for my own upload mechanism was fairly easy.
Here's a thought... In the forum settings where you configure the
forum/gallery integration, give the site admin the option to choose
between using the core gallery, or using an external script (the admin
would then have to specify the URL of the external script). This way
3rd party developers (or the site admin) could write custom modules to
handle these functions if they want, without having to change the core
forum code.
Presstopia.Com
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Hi,
instead of chit - chatting, why don't you supporter guys just give us
an detailed instruction on installing the forums and gallery?
Actually, in the previous version of the forum, i made avatar appeared
on posts by changing a directory name(don't remember exactly, sorry).
But since i installed the newest version, don't know why i just
couldn't made it again. Or is it an incompatible between forums 3.1 and
gallery 3.0.10?
Cheers,
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viechinguyen wrote Hi, instead of chit - chatting, why don't you supporter guys just give us an detailed instruction on installing the forums and gallery?
Actually, in the previous version of the forum, i made avatar appeared on posts by changing a directory name(don't remember exactly, sorry). But since i installed the newest version, don't know why i just couldn't made it again. Or is it an incompatible between forums 3.1 and gallery 3.0.10?
Cheers,
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It is not my desire to chit chat about support issues. There is no detailed instructions on the modules because they install the same as any other DNN module. There were definately a few issues with these release, especially gallery on install. The gallery had a bad biz controller class which is fixed in source but releasing it is something we are working on. The forums install fine but they do have their errors which we are fixing as well.
The problem of installation is that something was changed in dnn core that affected these modules. This we did not explicity declare which is what the support nightmare is about. In future releases, the DNN Core 3.01 or later will be in the readme.txt.
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Presstopia wrote
Crispy wrote FTB's build in smiley buttons? I know nothing of this, not saying it doesn't exist but this also poses another problem: What if the user isn't using FTB? |
I thought it did since Community Server uses FTB and it has a Smiley drop-down, although I'm not sure if it's a custom toolbar item or not. I actually use FCKEditor for my DNN site and FCK has a smiley button which works great.
Crispy wrote First off, the current gallery needs to change to be more secure. This will require it using the DNN File Manager and no more custom upload mechanism. |
Which frankly is another reason I think the Forum should provide it's own image upload functionality. Users typically don't want to wrestle with a gallery application to simply add an image to their posts. They want a simple, idiot-proof dialog with a "Browse" and an "Upload" button. This is what I ended up writing since my users complained constantly about the whole image upload process. Fortunately FCKeditor allows you to specify a custom image gallery script so substituting the gallery for my own upload mechanism was fairly easy.
Here's a thought... In the forum settings where you configure the forum/gallery integration, give the site admin the option to choose between using the core gallery, or using an external script (the admin would then have to specify the URL of the external script). This way 3rd party developers (or the site admin) could write custom modules to handle these functions if they want, without having to change the core forum code.
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The idea of the appliation having its own upload mechanism at all is a security concern. The ability to upload images or anything for that matter, should be handled from one place as far as security is concerned.
I am not knocking what you are saying at all, but I hope you understand that you have to think about things from the perspective of all and not just yourself. This is one of the more difficult aspects of doing dnn core work. Now, we are integrating it into our roadmap a way to remove any association with the gallery. I think this would be achieved via some sort of provider API model, but no decisions have been made. Scripts are definately not the answer here, there are much better ways. Adding functionality is a painfully slow process as we have to handle what the module already does first.
I think the forums have come very far in a little amount of time, but I definately see plenty of room for improvement. Perhaps I am just the half filled glass type of person though. Keep in mind, this module is only 6 months old and is not your typical dnn module.
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No problem, Crispy! You guys are doing a marvelous (and thankless) job
and I'm just letting you know what feedback I have been receiving from
my users, and (as a developer myself) how I think it can best be
addressed so we don't bug you so much .
Just to clarify though, when I say the forum should "use it's own image
upload mechanism" I meant one that does not require the Gallery to be
installed. If such a mechanism comes in the form of a DNN upload
provider, then great! I like that idea. However, if such a
provider does not materialize then it would still be better if the
forum functionality currently provided by the Gallery (smileys and
avatar/image uploads) existed wholly within the forum itself. It's
clunky to have to install the Gallery module just to get smileys on
one's forum, as an example. I'm sure most people would agree.
PS : Allowing 3rd party scripts (modules, or plugins) to optionally
replace parts of the core forum functionality would make the forums
more extensible (much like DNN's modules make DNN more extensible) and
I think developers would love it. It may raise the interest in the
forum module considerably (and take some of the load off you at the
same time). Just my 2 cents.
Presstopia.Com
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