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New Post 9/28/2008 10:46 AM
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User is offline Sid Chaudhari
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DNN Authentication and IE8 serious issue 

Just today I downloaded IE8 Beta 2 to test dnn system. My production is still on 4.8.04. (Not 4.9.0). There is a big problem authentication problem that came forward. Issue is that if you open a dnn website in ie8 single tab, then login to the website. Now logout of the website on the same tab, now close the tab and open a new tab. In the new tab type the home URL of the same dnn website to which you logged in earlier in the previous tab, and you will notice that even though you had logged out from the website on the previous tab which you closed after logging out, on the new tab dnn will log you in automatically - which is wrong.

Even IE7 has multiple tab system but if you repeat the same step in IE7, on the second tab of the same browser instance dnn will not log you in automatically. DNN acts intelligent enough to know that it had logged the user out on the IE7 previous tab so on the new tab, it will again ask for the username/password.

Initially I thought this might be a problem with my production site or my machine, so I tried this in my office R&D lab over 8 machines, with various live dnn websites including dotnetnuke.com and I observed the same behavior.

I don't know if it’s a core dnn issue, or a configuration issue or IE8 issue - irrespective of whatever it is - thought this is a serious and needs to gain visibility and we all need to work together to address this asap, especially before IE8 production version goes live.

Appreciate if anyone can try and give us some pointers of what needs to be done to invalidate the user in the second tab of the same browser instance if the user was logged out on the first tab of the same browser instance - in short - a fix for the issue - even a temporary fix will do - as this is pretty serious. Any help is sincerely appreciated.

Sincerely,


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New Post 9/28/2008 2:25 PM
User is offline cathal connolly
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Re: DNN Authentication and IE8 serious issue 

Microsoft have changed the memory set up of tabs in IE8, so each can run in it's own process, ensuring that a tab that goes out of control cannot crash the browser. They're obviously still working through the kinks as this would be a fundamental change in the security model, so I can't believe it's deliberate. Checking on the Microsoft connect site for IE , theres quite a lot of security related issues (https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/SearchResults.aspx?SearchQuery=security), and a lot of tab related issues (https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/SearchResults.aspx?SearchQuery=tab) - i'd recommend you log this as one so that you can track if it's been fixed. IE8 is still a beta product so we have no plans to make any changes to work around potential issues, realistically we can only test & work with production releases.

Cathal

 
New Post 9/28/2008 10:21 PM
User is offline Sid Chaudhari
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Re: DNN Authentication and IE8 serious issue 

Cathal you are right and I completely concur with you that we should work with production version of IE8.

I have already raised this issue with microsoft before I raised it here.

Let's see what they have to say, I will keep this thread updated on whatever information i receive from microsoft.

But in case if IE8 goes to production with this then we will have to look into it.

Sincerely,


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New Post 9/29/2008 7:19 AM
User is offline Alex Shirley
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Re: DNN Authentication and IE8 serious issue 
Modified By Alex Shirley  on 9/29/2008 9:19:48 AM)

> But in case if IE8 goes to production with this then we will have to look into it.

Assuming it is what Cathal describes then DNN won't be the only platform / website effected. Buck 100% stops with MS I reckon under this scenario, it's an issue with their browser (even if they were crazy enought to release it as it is, unlikely though as it appears to be a "known issue").

 

Many thanks...


Well might as well promo one of my DNN sites as I'm here: http://www.snasty.co.uk
 
New Post 9/29/2008 7:33 AM
User is offline Brandon Haynes
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Re: DNN Authentication and IE8 serious issue 

Although I haven't examined this issue in any detail, it seems almost certainly related to a bug in the way IE8 is handling cookies and/or cookie expiration between a closed tab and a new request.  This would be in line with the general gossip I've heard about the state of the beta.  Being beta, these are exactly the sorts of issues I'd expect.

My guess is that if you examined the requests via a web proxy (such as Fiddler), you will see a cookie that should have been invalidated in the closed tab mysteriously re-submitted in a new tab request.  You can do so for extra credit, but it's not worth spending much time on until the product is closer to release.  This bug is virtually certain to be caught and corrected.

Brandon


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